我的信心遭受又一次打击！SUSE还是很多地方不方便啊

早就对linux向往。
先是让朋友帮忙安装了FEDORA6。用着不错——
于是激起了学习的欲望，自己安装了SUSE10.2——感觉界面及对中文的支持很好！加装了DVD自带的很多软件后觉得非常满意了～～～～

在随后的使用中，麻烦逐渐多了：
浏览许多网站，音乐（视频）播放不了（新浪网站居然*出窗口要求我必须用IE才能正常浏览视频！）；工作最常用的CRM系统，连登录都登录不了；没有QQ（幸好还有SKYPE）；网上银行用不了；找不到类似于PPLIVE这样的网络电视软件（找到了安装也难搞定，搞了很久最后还是放弃了）；不能打CS......另外最恼火的是声音一塌糊涂（对喜欢听点儿音乐的我来说太难以忍受了）！

我不知道还有多少在WIN下很常用在这里却很费劲的功能等着我去学习——太累了！

我看你说的那些应用还是在Windows下来的方便,用Linux纯属浪费时间.

算是体会到“桌面应用还是WIN好”这句话的意义了。

但我对LINUX的热情确实高涨了一阵子：将我的笔记本、台式机全部搞成LINUX。为了学习LINUX的安装，数次通宵——搞不定睡不着觉。曾经有两次实在熬不住脱了衣服钻被窝，结果脑袋里忽然想起什么又穿衣服重新起床～～～～

发觉LINUX某些方面应用不方便后又重新格式化两台电脑——搜遍能找到的所有论坛，安装了双操作系统......昨晚还通宵没睡研究FREEBSD——

作为一个电脑门外汗，我对LINUX的热情实在太难以表达了！

可是～～～～～～唉！真不知道下一步该怎么选择啊！

算是体会到“桌面应用还是WIN好”这句话的意义了。

但我对LINUX的热情确实高涨了一阵子：将我的笔记本、台式机全部搞成LINUX。为了学习LINUX的安装，数次通宵——搞不定睡不着觉。曾经有两次实在熬不住脱了衣服钻被窝，结果脑袋里忽然想起什么又穿衣服重新起床～～～～

发觉LINUX某些方面应用不方便后又重新格式化两台电脑——搜遍能找到的所有论坛，安装了双操作系统......昨晚还通宵没睡研究FREEBSD——

作为一个电脑门外汗，我对LINUX的热情实在太难以表达了！

可是～～～～～～唉！真不知道下一步该怎么选择啊！

再这样用上一年就不一样了。

因为国内许多商业网站为了成本的考虑不能支持linux和Firefox，另一方面linux人才也比较少，只有我们大家共同努力，提高linux的使用率，相信以后的linux生活应该更方便！

要玩Linux桌面当然痛苦了，结果就是被玩了。
这就是事实。

如果你
不打游戏
不用上一些“不规范”的网站
不用电脑听音乐（拷贝到mp3／CD中听）
不看网络电视
不……
那么用Linux来上个网，看个email，写写文档还是不错的。

唉，有些问题也不能怪Linux啊。

简单说就是你必须意识到 Linux 由于用户少受到很多厂商/内容提供商的歧视。至于你的问题

1. 歧视问题，请置信新浪表示关注，新浪以后有可能变；或者选择沉默，新浪不会变。
2. CRM不懂，如果你愿意不妨说说详情，万一有人可以帮到
3. 同1.选项多一项，选择外资银行的服务；据我所知，目前外资银行在中国开展的都是人民币理财业务，还没有开展储蓄业务的。
4. 用 LumaQQ 或者我打包的 eva 。
5. 我现在天天用 qsopcast + sopcast 看 BBC World One。由于牵扯专有软件问题，不准备打包。或者有空看能不能联系 sopcast 作者看看态度。
6. CS 进 win 玩。
7. 声音问题你没有说清楚，是驱动还是软件还是怎么样？我现在天天用 amarok + last.fm 狂爽，而且歌曲会自动下载歌词。

如果真的喜欢 Linux ，没有必要迷信 windows 的桌面。对 Linux 有歧视的状况下，我还是建议你留着 win。

LZ所说基本属实，但有很多问题不能归结于Linux不行，更多的是网络不支持、也缺少第三方厂家跟进。国内的许多厂家都跟着D版的WIN走，满足于简单的复制，几乎没考虑过开发，更别说开发Linux版本的软件了。

网上听歌用mplayerplug-in
新浪是个么叼网站.不让看.xx还不去.妈的广告又多.版面又丑

图形界面版本：
rpm:http://apt.magiclinux.org/magic/2.1/...-4mgc.i686.rpm
还好，这个装上就能用。不过有提示
WARNING: please edit ~/.scim/global and change /DefaultConfigModule to kconfig

请看这篇文章，写得非常好！
* Welcome Windows Users *

This is a welcome to the Microsoft Windows users, who are interested in Linux.

Dear Windows user,

you are looking into the world of Linux? Welcome to another world of computing. As a MS Windows user you are familiar with one way of doing things. Be prepared to familiarize with a different way of doing things. This can sometimes be confusing, sometimes frustrating.

I hope that you can remember when you were learning Windows. Some people come from another background (eg. MS-DOS). Other people jump directly into learning how to manage a computer running MS-Windows. At any rate, learning the ins and outs of an OS is a task which requires some work, time and patience. Learning how to manage your computer with Linux will not be any different - because Linux is not trying to replicate MS-Windows, it is a system of its own. Learning a new operating system takes months - maybe years (to reach an almost complete level of knowledge).

Linux is a Unix system. The earliest Unix systems are from the 60′ties, decades before the personal computer became a reality with the Microsoft “Disk Operating System” OS. It was dedicated computers, with teams of system maintainers, and these maintainers have arranged Unix in a way, which is most organized and suitable for maintenance. This is why you can trust me when I say, Linux is arranged in a smarter way than some other operating systems.

To summarize; when you feel confused or frustrated, keep on battling and eventually you will see light at the end of the tunnel.

Nobody promises effortless conversion from MS-Windows to Linux - although certain Linux distributions attempts to be closer toward MS-Windows than others. Distributions which are closer toward MS-Windows would be for example Linspire (formerly Lindows). Distributions further away from MS-Windows would be basic general-purpose distributions like Debian and Slackware - which are closer to the Unix inheritance. To the benefit, all Linux distributions have the same base “under the hood” so to say.

If you prefer to go easy, feel free to search for easy Linux distributions, I shall be the first to applaud anyone who is willing to enter the battle to convert from another operating system to Linux - your free OpenSource alternative. Personally I recommend that you try a little harder and search for one of the Linux distributions which are still quite close to the Unix inheritance. My reasoning is that although you must be prepared for a slightly harder battle to learn using your computer the Unix way (a steeper learning curve), you will also be faster at reaching an understanding of the advantages and benefit from this setup.

There are many reasons for converting from another operating system to Linux. Each person has an individual relation to this, but typical reasons are:

1) I have old hardware and I want new software than runs well on my machine. Maybe Microsoft has quit their support of the OS installed on the computer from the beginning. Linux reduces the need to upgrade or replace hardware when upgrading to newer versions because it is very efficient and designed to be scalable.

2) I want to spend my money wisely, not on updating software (and my morals are too high to use piracy). Linux and much of the related software is available at no cost.

3) I have a political agenda when choosing free OpenSource software. You may not be willing to accept the constraints of commercial software (financially, regarding file formats, bug fix support is in the hands of some developers and it can be difficult to get their attention, etc). The most advanced form is GNU Copyrighted software (socalled GPL), as defined by the Free Software Foundation, but other standard copyrights exist as well.

For people who have used Linux for a while, and tested some different Linux setups (typically downloading various distributions and testing whether they suit their needs), another advantage is the ability to configure your system to your personal taste - more wide and more deep than is possible with MS-Windows. This personal taste is usually developed as you go along with Linux and discover new possibilities.

You should be aware that although Linux had its base in the server area (where also computer maintainers familiar with the Unix way of doing things were situated), Linux has come a long way toward the average desktop user. Linux is a truly multi-purpose OS, which can be implemented also in cellphones and PDA’s, harddisk recorders, telephone management systems, sattelites, network routers, high performance (multi-processor) super-computers and clusters, etc.

It must be admitted that Windows is also spreading into other areas than the core desktop usage (and server usage, with the NT basis). For example Microsoft has made a dedicated Media Center edition for home theatre applications, Windows CE (for embedded systems), etc. This does not to any extent reach the flexibility of a Linux system, where the OpenSource approach provides developers with complete freedom. It continues to amaze me that such a scalable and flexible system as Linux can be made freely available and it amazes me that Linux is a suitable choice for such a wide field of application. Things done right from the beginning.

Since we are assuming that you are joining us from the average Microsoft desktop / laptop user base (either at work or at your home PC), you will benefit if you focus on Linux distributions who focuses on the desktop part of the user base. Many new Linux distributions exists with the particular purpose of making a package for you, easy to like - or maybe even fall in love with.

So, what are the differences between Linux and MS-Windows that are so hard to learn? Well, for some people it is harder than for others, but let us start with the most basic differences:

1) Linux is arranged in a way where you have a root directory. Here you mount your entire file system - with the small twist that “everything” is a file in Linux (also your mouse, your screen and your keyboard + your USB port and other I/O). You mount your harddrive(s) to this root (well, the Linux boot sequence does this for you, of course).

2) The harddrive and file system is arranged in a logical manner, where there is a / for the root, a /boot for the boot area, a /dev for your devices (screen, keyboard, mouse - and more) and so on. There is also a separate location for binary (executable) files and a separate location for libraries. Everything generally very easy to read and maintain.

3) As oposed to MS Windows, Linux is a multi-user system from the beginning, intended to be maintained by an administrator (we call him “root”). There is a /home directory for each user of the system. The home directory is the user’s realm : a standard Linux user can’t damage the system, he would have to login as root for this. In MS Windows the user is generally not aware that he’s running as root nearly all the time.

4) The entire Linux configuration is built around readable and editable text files. Such files are placed in the /etc directory (etc = editable text configuration files). Most Linux operating systems provide graphical configuration frontends for nearly everything. In MS Windows not everybody has the knowledge to understand the bloated registry, Linux configuration is easier to understand.

5) Since Linux is a multi-user system from the beginning, it has always been a part of the Linux core to have users separated into groups, each with their separate permissions (and also stuff they are not allowed to do). The file system is built with different permissions for you as a user, a group of users, and for system administrators (who are allowed to do basically anything). This means that you cannot accidentally flush your system down the drain (it is for example not allowed to format your harddrive when you’re a normal user). Each user has his personal directory to store settings and data (the applications stores user settings in the user directory as well as user data, eg. emails). Safety and security (eg. against any computer virus) is built into the system and it is a main concern.

This file structure is very unlike MS-Windows, initially built as a single user system, a very loose file structure where each program goes in its own subdirectory but also Windows goes in the \Windows directory, where also shared libraries are located and other common stuff. I find this system lacking a lot of structure, but you have to become used to the Linux way where an application is “spread all over” your harddrive into the respective directories and not located in a single location (or a few locations). With MS-Windows there is no root as in Linux - instead all things are tied into the kernel. Devices, storage drives and so on are not visible on your disk - only you might find a driver configured to load into memory and each storage drive is named C: or D: and so on - and you’re not able to distinguish between different types of storage drives (harddisks versus CD/DVD-ROM/RW drives versus USB pens, etc.).

MS-Windows is/was (at least originally) built around a more limited FAT file system, all with a starting point of being a single-user system. Admittedly Microsoft chose to implement server versions of Windows and since made attempts at merging the server side with the average user side (then suddenly Windows was running a different file system, NTFS).

Probably this move also made effects into the core of the system - but it is my impression that MS-Windows still carries fundamentals from a single user system, not least in their file system and the way it is organized and the fact that any user on the system has access to system maintenance facilities, which can break your system. This also makes Windows more accessible to computer virus and other malware - on the system level (user data can also be affected by virus and malware in a Linux system, if the user is careless).

To make the management of installation and removal of applications easy to handle, it is normal for Linux distributions to supply applications in socalled “packages” which include information about the files installed (binary or source). This unified installation database is a powerful way to maintain your application suite, as opposed to the Windows anarchy where each application may bring its own installer (and put files in random places + forget to remove them if the application is uninstalled).

If a package does not exist (it happens very rarely) you can be forced to either make one yourself, or install from source (well made source is quite easy to compile with the make utility). This is a normal operation for skilled Linux users, but the rest of us will have to ask someone to do it for us. Many helpful people are ready to provide you with their help. Luckily many packages already exist for many different applications waiting to fulfill your needs for various tasks.

In general, if you need to configure something in Windows, search for an application that does exactly that for you. In Linux the configuration files are readable and editable text. You can search the internet for options and make the setup to your needs. This is more hardcore (more what a geek likes), but it is flexible and if you choose a full featured desktop environment (eg. KDE), it will supply you with interfaces through applications, like Windows, but still just change the text files accordingly.

Many myths have arised over time about Linux. Some of them should be busted as fast as possible. Let us call this the mythbuster section:

* Linux is too complicated.
- No. Linux is just different, as I have tried to lay out in the text above. Also, even if you have no friends working with Linux (nobody to ask for help in your local community), the internet is an open space of helpful people. Search and you shall find answers.

* Linux is old-fashioned text mode, no graphics.
- This is so wrong. Linux has a more advanced Window managing system than eg. MS-Windows, named X-Window (the work started in 1984). Today you can put a Window manager on top of this system - and on top of that a Desktop environment which all together provides you with flexibility and modularity unseen in any other operating system (unless they take advantage of the OpenSource projects available).

* Linux is for computer geeks only.
- No, today Linux is for everybody because it is your choice how much of a geek you want to be - whether you want to play with the fundamentals (eg. trimming performance) or whether you want a machine that “just works” - a productive environment for your tasks (eg. writing letters or other stuff in word processing, doing your budget calculations in spread sheets, etc.)

* Linux is difficult to setup.
- I’m afraid you’re wrong there. Linux is dead easy to setup. First time I installed Linux it took me 4 hours. Today it takes some 20 minutes to install that same basic system - configuring takes another 20 minutes. The reason it takes more time in the beginning is because things are different - but they are not difficult. Just do your preparations and read a carefully written installation guide - you should be safely on your way toward a successful installation. MS-Windows on the other hand requires much more time to install and continuous user intervention (so you cannot leave the computer to do the job on its own). Many Linux users confirm that MS-Windows is more difficult to install than Linux - when you know the basics about your computer and when you get used to the Linux way of doing things.

* Linux does not support modern hardware.
- False. Linux has had its battle with hardware support due to careless manufacturers of hardware, but today - as Linux has more weight in the desktop world - there is excellent support. Linux has native support for the most important hardware:
<ul>
<li> basic CPU’s (beyond AMD and Intel platforms)
<li> IDE + SCSI + SATA hard drives, etc.
<li> native support for peripherals as your mouse and keyboard
<li> the important videocard manufacturers (NVidia and ATI) do take care to support Linux with (binary) drivers - and of course you can choose an OpenSource driver as well.
<li> Netcards are widely supported, and when it comes to the large range of wireless netcards (wi-fi), if not supported directly with a manufacturer driver or through the Madwifi OpenSource driver, Linux can “wrap” a driver written for MS-Windows and use it with Linux - amazing, but true.
<li> Linux supports many sound cards with ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture).
<li> Webcams are usually plugged in the USB port. You just need the webcam application to support this hardware. It gets mounted onto the Linux file system in /dev - and off you go. In case of trouble, read one of many “how-to” instructions.
</ul>
With available lists you can steer away from unsupported hardware. Regarding support for modern hardware - developers sometimes choose to start with Linux (because it is so open) then transfer to other operating systems - which means that some times Linux support is ahead of supporting hardware through other operating systems. Remember, a developer of hardware is in a dilemma when having to develop hardware and software (including driver support) side-by-side. Advanced telephone systems (like UMTS/3G) have been developed with the use of Linux. A default Linux system without any extra drivers added (and loaded) will usually be much better off than a similar MS-Windows system (without any extra drivers loaded).

* Linux does not have enough applications.
- Well, enough is an “elastic” word. Let me start by saying that the fundamental nature of OpenSource creates a wide selection of applications due to many spin-offs from existing projects. I truly believe that for many tasks you will find more OpenSource options with Linux than you will find commercial software for MS-Windows. I can find a hole here, maybe there are not as many good games for Linux as for MS-Windows. You can keep your Windows box for games, or you can try to modify Linux to your MS-Windows needs (Linux has options to run some Windows applications through various interfaces, like WINE). For games you could also go “semi-pro” and invest in a game console (Playstation or Xbox).

* Without the commercial angle, Linux provides no support
- As wrong as you can be. The whole community around Linux with free software provides a “pass it forward” mentality - people gave you friendly and free support, this encourages you as a user to also help others as you become more skilled - but this is a free initiative of course, nobody requires that you become a supporter. In the OpenSource community you will find the quality of free technical support to come as a shock (at least a very positive experience). If you run into problems getting the right answer - it helps to provide sufficient information about your problem. So be aware, providing the right question is a part of getting the right answer. Garbage in gives garbage out.

As a wise man once said: When you really think about it, you can see why there are lots of reasons not to use Linux. There just aren’t any good ones. Well I’d add that maybe it is boring to teach yourself another operating system - that is entirely a matter of personal motivation.

I hope this introduction has provided you with information to decide whether you should throw yourself into the battlescene of Linux.

Ready to move ahead? I have a big recommendation. You can jump directly from a commercial MS-Windows world with Microsoft Office and other commercial applications at your disposal into a free OpenSource Linux world. Chances are that this will be a very hard battle - maybe also unnecessarily hard. Since OpenSource software for Linux is usually also available for Windows you can make a smooth start by first familiarizing yourself with the software under MS-Windows, then later make the jump to Linux and be pleased that you know the applications already - being productive from the get-go and therefore have a more relaxed approach to understanding the underlying Linux system (if you like to). Software to consider for your MS-Windows computer is:

* Web browsing : Firefox/Konqueror
Make sure you can use your internet banking and check that other important sites works for you.

* Email : Thunderbird/Evolution/Kontact
Try to convert your emails in eg. Outlook Express into Thunderbird and work with Thunderbird. Later you can move your Thunderbird emails from MS-Windows to your Thunderbird in Linux (because the mailbox file structure is unchanged and can be copied directly between the two operating systems).

* Graphics : GIMP
If you like to work with Photoshop or other graphics (or image processing) software, try to familiarize yourself with GIMP instead. There are other options, but GIMP is a good choice.

* Office : OpenOffice/KOffice
This office package is not as rich on features as Microsoft Office, but try to use it under MS-Windows. If you don’t like it you can save your documents in eg. MS-Word file format and forget about it. If OpenOffice works for you, keep the files in the OpenDocument Format (and maybe also convert other documents to this format) before moving the files to Linux.

It is my feeling that this “bridge” of OpenSource software between different operating systems is a major benefit for your freedom to explore your choices of different operating systems.

When you move from MS-Windows to Linux I can recommend to start with a dual-boot setup. It is pain free - and if you fiddle with the Linux system, maybe trash something, it will always be possible for you to boot your MS-Windows system - go on the internet and find answers. Many people, even very experienced Linux users, still have a harddisk partition with MS-Windows available (for one reason or the other), maybe because the computer came with it (ie. you already paid for it).

不错，通俗易懂！

这是现实 要么接受按照Thruth说的来 要么逃避其实windows一般使用还行

其實我也說過
Linux是先苦後甜,Windows是先甜後苦

花心機配置一下之後,你會發現Linux還是不錯的

精辟。。。。。

不管linux怎么不方便，我就是喜欢用 ^_^

几乎天天用linux，还是少不了windows，虽然几乎不用。游戏
moto 的linux手机据说只能和windows同步。linux的同步软件可以同步palm 和 pocketPC；symbian的好像不行。

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有点儿像，而且其中还提到了网上银行。

现在的suse 10.2还是不错的。最近已经解决了ff在线听音乐的问题了，安装了vlc看CNN，audacious 1.3听mp3，mplayer看rmvb！用eva聊qq。

同感。。。。

我的集成读卡器还是认不出，不过很少用到，用到就启动windows

说真的，使用操作系统就跟吃饭一样
你喜欢吃中餐，就不要试了7分熟的西餐牛排后还说人家煮不熟，

在现状下，linux是非主流，很多东西就是要DIY电脑硬件那样子去DIY

如果你觉得费事，自己DIY不来
你可以使用windows这种类似品牌电脑的东西。

但是你不能指望suse去迎合你，这不现实，大家成年人了，不要幼稚了。

现在只是上浩方、VS打游戏会到windows下面去，有时候看网络电视也会去。
其他90%的时间都在linux下面。

现在7分在windows下，3分在linux下，

vista的易用和全新的交互界面让我很舒服，

而linux的shell下的完备，也然人很爽。

生活态度的一种 人不能总千篇一律 外面的世界很宽广

具体是不是中国人写得我也不知道，是从一个 Suse linux blog 转来的。
但是写得非常实在！

我也是个初学者，感觉linux下的软件功能还是很强的。对于聊天，我安装了Gaim，可以兼容QQ，MSN等，使用很方便；看电影，虽然系统自带软件不能播放avi，wmv等格式的，但可以安装mplayer。我是在使用中学习，学习中使用，感觉挺有乐趣的。

这些问题等到用linux的人多了就自然没有了

看到过有提示：“必须使用IE浏览”。
这样的网站，我就不看。不就得啦。我是买家，上什么网站我说了算。
人总是要坚持一些东西的。
Windows的确是早来到这个世界上几年。早几年占领了市场。当然，我不是说我就不用windows 。偶尔我也用一下。我的意思是，两个都要会，不仅要会还要精通。

网络电视可以用qsopcast看。支持录像功能，嗯嗯。

“必须使用IE浏览”这类东西真可恶。网上银行还都是清一色ActiveX控件，就不能开个SSL页面给我们来用…… :(