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时间：2013-09-24

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你自己吾识用，吾好赖落部Ipad度

作者: 3420TG-N930 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由叉烧我食过於 2013-7-21 02:40 AM 发表
你自己吾识用，吾好赖落部Ipad度

ifan又话user friendly简单易用，系咪真系？有眼见

作者: 叉烧我食过发布时间: 2013-09-24

开a c 都觉得难

作者: 炫翎发布时间: 2013-09-24

我明白

作者: 3420TG-N930 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 3420TG-N930 於 2013-7-21 09:52 PM 发表
仲有，对任何电脑用户，drag & drop根本系本能。但iPad / iPhone咁都唔得，下下要经iTunes transfer，真系有冇搅错！

There in lies the main thing: iOS brought a lot of people who have no experience with computers to computing. Breaking the old habit of relying on files, is polarising: some people are going to absolutely love it and some people are going to absolutely hate it. That's what Apple products normally does: Some people absolutely hated MacBooks but some people absolutely love MacBooks and Mac OS X.

I like that Android and iOS are doing things are very very differently, which gives you choices. If iOS and Android does things the absolute same way, if I don't like having to manipulate files and like the sync model and the app store only model where do I get to go for choice? ;)

(I have really NEVER dragged and dropped files onto android Nexus 7, because I generally hated dealing with the file systems. When I do, I do with dropbox with local cached files and searches through my mailboxes, but that's just my usecase. I understand some people needs or wants to deal with the file systems)

作者: Peterboy32 发布时间: 2013-09-24

点解唔用 dropbox 或是 google drive? iOS 理念是用家不用理 file system，drag & drop file 不合 iOS 理念，我觉得 iOS 可见未来不会支持。

作者: 3420TG-N930 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 lightcable 於 2013-7-22 05:25 AM 发表点解唔用 dropbox 或是 google drive? iOS 理念是用家不用理 file system，drag & drop file 不合 iOS 理念，我觉得 iOS 可见未来不会支持。

点解唔用云端？如果无wifi又收唔到4G/3G，又如何？如果个pdf file过百MB，系咪又要等？

作者: Peterboy32 发布时间: 2013-09-24

IPAD 用到 dropbox, google drive, microsoft sky drive

完！

作者: 熊爸爸发布时间: 2013-09-24

So, in areas of no or poor interent connection, the files are just something cannot be reached.

作者: lightcable 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 asustech 於 2013-7-22 06:12 PM 发表
So, in areas of no or poor interent connection, the files are just something cannot be reached.

itunes 又点会过不到 PDF

只系楼主无智识，不懂操作而已

求其预先download pdf reader就OK

如果你话空机，咩app都无

OK U WIN

作者: 人心人手发布时间: 2013-09-24

itunes 外，又要个itools

拉出拉入咩files都OKAY

作者: 强生发布时间: 2013-09-24

周街所有电脑都有iTunes畀你？你又连到其他iTunes？

作者: asustech 发布时间: 2013-09-24

Send the pdf via email. Open the email and download the pdf on iPad. You can view the pdf in browser or ibook.

作者: 强生发布时间: 2013-09-24

其实ios有好多云端同wireless transfer嘅app., 当然…如果大家觉得佢又要wifi又要手机上网麻烦的话咁就冇得再讲落去喇！

ios同andriod我都一直用紧，个人觉得各有所长！

作者: 强生发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 asustech 於 2013-7-22 06:12 PM 发表 So, in areas of no or poor interent connection, the files are just something cannot be reached.

咁如果又冇带cable 又冇card reader 咁又点算呢？

作者: 炫翎发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 asustech 於 2013-7-22 06:12 PM 发表
So, in areas of no or poor interent connection, the files are just something cannot be reached.

You understand that you can cache these files locally with dropbox right? You understand that you can sync PDFs directly to iPad and view via iBook right?

作者: MICMIC_2ND 发布时间: 2013-09-24

答非所问！

作者: lihoma 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 3420TG-N930 於 2013-7-24 01:30 PM 发表

呢样可以唔当issue！用得iphone / android，几乎都会带埋cable。

I really don't being any kind of cable when I use my iPad as a laptop replacement because it can easily last a whole day of use.

iPhone less so but there are times when I just don't bother, especially when I know I'll be in the office or home sometime during the day.

作者: lihoma 发布时间: 2013-09-24

楼主，我认同你意见，放文件真系好烦，
名大於实，下次买安卓机

作者: 熊爸爸发布时间: 2013-09-24

打手味甚重

作者: asustech 发布时间: 2013-09-24

各下是 Android 用家，但不知 Android 除了用线及读卡机，还有何等多的不需网络连线的无线传输资料功能。各人对 Android 的认知那么贫乏，真的令人费解。

Wifi direct, SuperBeam, Bluetooth, NFC, Android Beam, Group Play, 等等都不需网络连线就可以传输资料。

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作者: 3420TG-N930 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 kklkenny 於 2013-7-24 08:59 PM 发表
各下是 Android 用家，但不知 Android 除了用线及读卡机，还有何等多的不需网络连线的无线传输资料功能，各人对Android 的认知，真的令人费解。

Wifi direct, SuperBeam, Bluetooth, NFC, Android Beam, Group Play ...

Sharing is absolutely one of the things iOS needs to get better with. I think Apple is very very paranoid about opening up their system and compromising the security of the device, so I think Apple's taking a very very slow integration process to do so. Air-drop coming in iOS 7 should be a huge improvement though. Also, really, I own a bunch of Android devices and I've NEVER ever had people asked me to beam them something or send them something via NFC / Bluetooth (but that's just me, I'm surrounded by tech-savvy people who knows enough to do message or email or whatnot).

One thing about NFC is that it's dangerous to have Samsung do one for their own phone and android does another. The android market is quickly becoming a fight between Android and Samsung's Android, which works very differently. It's telling that Samsung did not once say the word Android during their over-the-top Galaxy S4 announcement. That kind of aggression leads to fragmentation that's not necessarily good for Android as a platform.

作者: 熊爸爸发布时间: 2013-09-24

scatter

作者: 小稀发布时间: 2013-09-24

讲黎讲去都系公厠同屋企厠所的分别
你话小便一定好似街外面有尿兜先体贴既, 咁你咪去公厠囉. 大不了屋企装番几个冇人会闹你.

作者: 糊涂松发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 va40hk 於 2013-7-25 05:26 PM 发表亳不体贴??睇你咩角度睇.......当你唔识云端，又或者其他方法。用ipad是会阻手阻脚。相反android平板是会方便到门外汉使用。(只是条友有基本到唔基本电脑知识.......)

师兄咁又唔啱，帮老板放文件入去做presentation，唔可以靠云端㗎，一定要切切实实放咗入去开到至得㗎，一阵大老爷去嗰个场合网络收得唔好，攞唔到落嚟死得㗎，我地有份工做，有家庭要养，唔似你地呀！

作者: kklkenny 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 lihoma 於 2013-7-23 09:06 AM 发表
咁如果又冇带cable 又冇card reader 咁又点算呢？

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/images/r10/androidD.jpg

重有样嘢叫蓝芽同NFC传输。

作者: 熊爸爸发布时间: 2013-09-24

一句讲晒，你侮辱紧部IPad,

作者: 非自愿古法施肥发布时间: 2013-09-24

我用ipad, iphone同mac, 都有同时用android电话同平板，事实我都觉得itune好麻烦，不过我可能少入资料落部电话同ipad度，所以影响不大，一年都插唔多过3次落电脑连itune，听歌用kkbox, 睇戏用pptv直接下载，漫画用android tab既卡漫，都无其他用途了。

作者: va40hk 发布时间: 2013-09-24

好简单，你觉得唔体贴唔好用。咪唔好用囉。呢个世界大把用iPad的人都用得好顺。

作者: orafan 发布时间: 2013-09-24

我十分认同楼上讲既野

作者: bigblackpig 发布时间: 2013-09-24

android就系任用家点用都得。钟意drag and drop，ok无问题。唔钟意drag and drop，都得，有android有app将唔同档案分类，亦唔需要用家费心思。过档案，用蓝芽直过，wifi送wifi收，云端，咩都得，唔会限制。等你买左部电话返去，钟意点用就点用。

Apple功能好听就话保安，唔好听就系懒得开发。

作者: 炫翎发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由人心人手於 2013-7-22 10:28 AM 发表
点解唔用云端？如果无wifi又收唔到4G/3G，又如何？如果个pdf file过百MB，系咪又要等？

If they are within the same network, I would use something like "GoodReader" which allows them to transfer files wirelessly within the same network... 100MB isn't that much over the same network. Otherwise, Dropbox (and the likes) is a common enough technology to transfer files.

You're making a lot of specific assumptions targeting a very specific situation (which was not confirmed by the poster as such) that I can do the same no matter what device you're talking about..

What if you don't have the connecting cable? If done through memory card, what if the PC doesn't have a memory card slot and there is no card reader? etc etc etc...

The fact is, there are LOTS of ways to transfer files over and it is very common to do things over the cloud or at least done wirelessly now. To me, wireless is how you'll do stuff in the future with less dependency on the cables or physical drives (SD card, USB drive etc etc).

作者: 叉烧我食过发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 asustech 於 2013-7-22 06:12 PM 发表
So, in areas of no or poor interent connection, the files are just something cannot be reached.

In that case, for Android devices, what if you don't have the connecting cable? What if the PC doesn't have a card reader?

You can make ANY device a piece of shit with lots of assumptions...

what if you're locked in the room and you need to get the file to your boss? and you have no internet connection?
what if you have a 3G device but you forgot to pay your bills and your service got cut?

作者: 超级流星发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 bigblackpig 於 2013-7-27 01:59 PM 发表
师兄咁又唔啱，帮老板放文件入去做presentation，唔可以靠云端㗎，一定要切切实实放咗入去开到至得㗎，一阵大老爷去嗰个场合网络收得唔好，攞唔到落嚟死得㗎，我地 ...

There are lots of options that allows you to transfer the file to the iPad to be opened up locally.

I do that lots of time with mine (when I travel, i usually prepare all the docs in PDF on my PC and then transfer to my iPad via Dropbox or GoodReader).

Note: You can transfer PDF files to GoodReader through iTunes if you absolutely need to do it through cable.

作者: andy1225 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由炫翎於 2013-7-27 09:16 PM 发表

重有样嘢叫蓝芽同NFC传输。

So you're assuming the PC has NFC and Bluetooth??

Again, assumptions assumptions assumptions... and only include assumptions that makes your case valid...

作者: 叉烧我食过发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 muddrex 於 2013-7-29 09:55 AM 发表 In that case, for Android devices, what if you don't have the connecting cable? What if the PC doesn't have a card reader?You can make ANY device a piece of shit with lots of assumptions... ...

各下没有看 #25 帖吗？

作者: 3420TG-N930 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 muddrex 於 2013-7-29 09:59 AM 发表 So you're assuming the PC has NFC and Bluetooth??Again, assumptions assumptions assumptions... and only include assumptions that makes your case valid...

无线连接 PC 时，就不需用 NFC, Bluetooth 啦，傻猪。Android 还有大把途径啦，傻猪。

作者: water.world 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 muddrex 於 2013-7-29 09:59 AM 发表 There are lots of options that allows you to transfer the file to the iPad to be opened up locally.I do that lots of time with mine (when I travel, i usually prepare all the docs in PDF on my ...

奥，外地用 dropbox 呀，要 $$$ 呀，你真有 $$$。

作者: muddrex 发布时间: 2013-09-24

引用:原帖由 kklkenny 於 2013-7-29 12:45 PM 发表
奥，外地用 dropbox 呀，要 $$$ 呀，你真有 $$$。

Again, you're only quoting specifics...

Let's summarize:
Here are some options:
1) With cable: You CAN transfer files via iTunes for Apps like GoodReader (one of the most popular app)
2) Without cable, within same network but no internet: GoodReader supports wifi transfer over network
3) Without cable, not within network but internet: Dropbox
- Note: all of the above allows the saved files to be opened offline (i.e. you will NOT need to stay online).

So far, I have yet to run across business situations where none of the above is available.

As for the $$$, you boss needs a file urgently... I'm sure that can be expensed.

If you count the number of options, I would agree Android does have more. However, just because iOS supports less options, it doesn't mean that you don't have any options (i.e. like the post owner said it MUST go through iTunes).

Transferring over wifi network or over the cloud is a very COMMON technology now and is widely used. If you have to pick a situation where the ONLY option left is the one that Android supports and iOS doesn't, then I'm sure I can do the same otherwise but it is simply being ridiculous.

作者: muddrex 发布时间: 2013-09-24

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